American German Car Fans, Sorry...

"Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis" (Dwhite95) 05/31/2018 at 09:22 • Filed to: None

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According to CNBC, Trump has said the primary goal is to prevent the sale of all German cars in the United States. So buy them now I guess?

At the very least prepare for the Buick Enclave to be a premium luxury car due to lack of choice.

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E90M3 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:31

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We better make sure we stop all those foreign made cars from driving down American streets!!

vondon302 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:32

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And Chrysler is going to get axed Friday.

Fun times.

Ash78, voting early and often > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:33

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If it weren’t for European imports, there would be no Donald Trump, nor wife 1 or 3.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:33

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id love to see him try, and then fail

404 - User No Longer Available > E90M3 05/31/2018 at 09:35

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...all while we’re offering the Chinese-built Buick Envision.

fintail > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:36

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Are we tired of winning yet?

Come on Putin, Stormy, Mueller, etc, let’s get this over with. I understand Watergate took a long time, but things should go faster now.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > E90M3 05/31/2018 at 09:36

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It would certainly make retaliatory tariffs interesting. The Germans won’t want heavy tariffs on their own cars, but they’ll probably do what they always do, put taxes on “american” things like oranges, Harley’s and Whiskey.

404 - User No Longer Available > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:37

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Might be a business opportunity for us... German cars registered in here Canada for US citizens, and we deal with the registration for you.

E90M3 > 404 - User No Longer Available 05/31/2018 at 09:37

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Lets not focus on how GM makes cars in other countries and lets focus on how we need to ban the Germans from selling their cars here.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > vondon302 05/31/2018 at 09:37

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By an Italian no less!

E90M3 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:38

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Mercedes builds half of the cars they sell in the US in the US. Plus most of the three series are made in South Africa. It’s fucking stupid.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:39

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Ignorance must be bliss.

Cé hé sin > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:41

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Germany won’t tariff anything because that’s an EU matter. But yes, EU tariffs without be aimed at products made in Trump supporting areas.

someassemblyrequired > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:43

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Methinks Angela Merkel has a lot of schmutz on Cheeto man.

Ash78, voting early and often > E90M3 05/31/2018 at 09:44

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Well, SC did start a war once when trying to form its own country to ensure low labor costs, so let’s tread carefully.

functionoverfashion > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:44

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Today in Headlines That Read Like The Onion, But Aren’t

Ash78, voting early and often > E90M3 05/31/2018 at 09:45

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Don’t forget the US is the sole maker all of the GLE and GLS for the entire world, too. And about half the C sedans IIRC.

I still can’t get used to not say M Class and GL Class...

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:47

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But lots are made here in the states. All the BMW x models and a lot of Mercedes.

Spanfeller is a twat > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:48

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I think I can translate trumpian now

Trump: “I WANT TARIFFS”

English: “I have no idea what I’m saying but if I scared these greedy corpoate fucks enough, they might make a favorable deal for me or my greedy corporate fuck friends!”

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:52

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He wants a deal

SVTyler > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 09:54

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As catastrophically dumb a decision this would be (which in Trump logic makes it extremely likely to happen), silver lining is that maybe the idiots in Alabama (where MB has a factory), Tennessee (Volkswagen), and South Carolina (BMW) who were responsible for Trump winning those states might actually see why electing a ignorant, impulsive conman is a bad idea when it completely tanks their state’s economies.

Also gotta love 2018 Republicans. Nothing says ‘small government’ and ‘free market’ like grossly overreaching, unnecessary tariffs.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Ash78, voting early and often 05/31/2018 at 09:56

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im im sure stomy daniels ancestors are imported

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 05/31/2018 at 09:57

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you act like he understands how businesses are run...lol

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/31/2018 at 09:58

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If we didn’t already have higher automotive import taxes than they do on some vehicles I’d believe you.

But the highest automotive import tax in Europe is 10% and the highest into the US is 25%.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 10:03

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Redefining ‘freedom’ one step at a time.

Then again, considering the issues I’ve had with German cars in the past, maybe he’s just trying to protect us from ourselves. Yeah, no - I didn’t think so...

E90M3 > Ash78, voting early and often 05/31/2018 at 10:12

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The South will rise again! Wait what?

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 10:12

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2 weeks from now we’ll find out that Trump has shorted a bunch of German car stocks, and he’ll get away with it.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 05/31/2018 at 10:13

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And his fanboys will call it a brilliant financial move.

FSI > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 10:13

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Maybe he just wants Cadillac and other manufacturers to finally bring their gorgeous concept cars to production goddammit.

BigBlock440 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 10:29

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We don’t have higher automotive import taxes, ours are 2.5%. The 25% is commercial vehicles.

lone_liberal > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 10:31

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Makes sense. He hates Merkel so the Germans are a target just like the way him hating Bezos makes Amazon a target.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > BigBlock440 05/31/2018 at 10:39

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And commercial vehicles are vehicles, which means we have higher import taxes on some vehicles. Which is exactly what I said.

Party-vi > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 10:41

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Hell Mercedes already did that with the import ban.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 05/31/2018 at 10:57

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No I know. I just hope saying it enough times will make a difference.

You know. Like pressing the walk button on a crosswalk.

BigBlock440 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 11:09

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Which German imports are affected by the 25%? And which American vehicles are affected by the 10%? There’s a large difference between the two...

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > BigBlock440 05/31/2018 at 11:35

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The foreign cars affected into the US is low because they dont even try to sell their product here because of the tariff. The whole purpose of the tariff was to make it nonviable for foreign car manufacturers to even bother trying to sell here.

Also, American built vehicles by US manufacturers affected by the 10%? Mustang, Transit, C-Max, and the Jeep lineup are all I can find, nothing from GM since they sold those brands. I kid you not, Europeans make more substantially more cars in American that are subject to the 10% than US manufacturers do.

fintail > BigBlock440 05/31/2018 at 11:37

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Which American vehicles aside from a few Mustangs and similar are actually wanted by Germans? Vintage cars don’t count.

BigBlock440 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 05/31/2018 at 13:06

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Other than the Amorak, what other vehicles would be subject to it, if they were to sell it here? The bulk of vehicles they make won’t be affected by the 25% if they wanted to sell it here, whereas every vehicle an American automaker would sell there would be subject to the 10%.

BigBlock440 > fintail 05/31/2018 at 13:07

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A similar number of European vehicles that Americans would want but fall under the 25%.

fintail > BigBlock440 05/31/2018 at 13:30

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Do you have data regarding that?

duurtlang > BigBlock440 06/01/2018 at 03:41

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Other than a handful of Mustangs the cars that are hit by the European import tarrifs are cars by European brands. BMW and Merc crossovers. Those are the bulk of the vehicles hit by the European tarrifs. And Teslas.

GM retreated from Europe in 2017, FCA mostly sells Italian branded cars in Europe (and a few renegades) and Ford only sells Ford of Europe products.

The European brands don’t have anything of significance to offer the US market just like the US market brands don’t have any cars/crossovers in any volume to offer the EU markets. Different market demands.

BigBlock440 > fintail 06/01/2018 at 09:50

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What vehicles do Europeans sell that is affected by the chicken tax that Americans would want?

BigBlock440 > duurtlang 06/01/2018 at 09:52

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The European brands don’t have anything of significance to offer the US market just like the US market brands don’t have any cars/crossovers in any volume to offer the EU markets. Different market demands.

That was my point, European manufacturers don’t make anything that the 25% tariff is keeping away.

fintail > BigBlock440 06/01/2018 at 10:07

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I was curious about “data”, not having a question answered with a question. Sorry if I was unclear.

duurtlang > BigBlock440 06/01/2018 at 10:20

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Exactly, and in the same way the American manufacturers aren’t building anything that 10% tarrif is keeping away from (or renders incompetitive in) Europe. So Trump’s outrage is entirely misplaced.